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Post by coachnip13 on Sept 24, 2014 12:50:52 GMT -5
In the store now.
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Post by longo9 on Sept 24, 2014 13:14:17 GMT -5
Just saw it, with these odds to pull one you might have to spend that much
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Post by keithwilliams on Sept 24, 2014 13:52:08 GMT -5
Very curious to see if these sell out or not. I'm guessing about half of the black/diamond VIPs would consider buying one, but releasing it with a 700 count sig as the prize seems like a misstep to me. Little reason to spend so many coins when you know they're going to have to put them in special packs in order to get them to sell out before next Wednesday.
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Post by cardinals507 on Sept 24, 2014 15:11:18 GMT -5
This pack I stupid. 1:120 odds means that their is 1 Waino sig in 120 packs. You could open up 120 packs for 120000 and most likely pull 1 maybe 2. DONT BUY THIS PACK!!!!
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Post by schmidty20 on Sept 24, 2014 15:17:44 GMT -5
This pack I stupid. 1:120 odds means that their is 1 Waino sig in 120 packs. You could open up 120 packs for 120000 and most likely pull 1 maybe 2. DONT BUY THIS PACK!!!! Nope. You could open 200 packs and still have only about an 81% chance of pulling ONE, forget two. With the 50 sig packs you could buy with 500000 coins, you would only have a 34% chance of pulling one. |
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Post by guineapirates on Sept 24, 2014 15:24:25 GMT -5
This pack I stupid. 1:120 odds means that their is 1 Waino sig in 120 packs. You could open up 120 packs for 120000 and most likely pull 1 maybe 2. DONT BUY THIS PACK!!!! Math is off - even if the opening of a pack is a dependent event (e.g., contents of the pack are based on previous pack openings), you would need 1,200,000 coins to pull one (120 * 10,000 = 1,200,000) which exceeds the cost of buying one 500,000 coin pack. The real odds are: 120 packs opened = 1 - (119/120)^120 = 63.3% chance of pulling the sig 50 packs opened = 1 - (119/120)^50 = 34.2% chance of pulling the sig |
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Post by jamminj on Sept 24, 2014 15:51:22 GMT -5
This is still a ripoff for a guaranteed sig.
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Post by cardinals507 on Sept 24, 2014 16:01:45 GMT -5
This pack I stupid. 1:120 odds means that their is 1 Waino sig in 120 packs. You could open up 120 packs for 120000 and most likely pull 1 maybe 2. DONT BUY THIS PACK!!!! Nope. You could open 200 packs and still have only about an 81% chance of pulling ONE, forget two. With the 50 sig packs you could buy with 500000 coins, you would only have a 34% chance of pulling one. oops did the math wrong lol still a ripoff of a pack though |
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Post by schmidty20 on Sept 24, 2014 16:52:24 GMT -5
This is still a ripoff for a guaranteed sig. Not really. I'd rather spend my 500K on a guranteed sig than have only a 34% chance of pulling one in 500K in sig packs. Of course, in sig packs, you would get other cards as well, but if you have 500K coins, you most likely do not need too many cards. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 17:41:06 GMT -5
This is still a ripoff for a guaranteed sig. Not really. I'd rather spend my 500K on a guranteed sig than have only a 34% chance of pulling one in 500K in sig packs. Of course, in sig packs, you would get other cards as well, but if you have 500K coins, you most likely do not need too many cards. Regardless of whether it's better "value" to pull normal packs or 1 guarenteed pack, it's utter madness to spend this much on one Digital Card. To put it in resell terms - These will go for around $10 on Ebay. 700 count at 1:120 odds. Madness. Utter bloody madness. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 17:48:54 GMT -5
This pack I stupid. 1:120 odds means that their is 1 Waino sig in 120 packs. You could open up 120 packs for 120000 and most likely pull 1 maybe 2. DONT BUY THIS PACK!!!! Math is off - even if the opening of a pack is a dependent event (e.g., contents of the pack are based on previous pack openings), you would need 1,200,000 coins to pull one (120 * 10,000 = 1,200,000) which exceeds the cost of buying one 500,000 coin pack. The real odds are: 120 packs opened = 1 - (119/120)^120 = 63.3% chance of pulling the sig 50 packs opened = 1 - (119/120)^50 = 34.2% chance of pulling the sig Can you explain how this is the case? I've often wondered how Topps systems allocate what's in each pack and have often found that if I buy back to back to back packs that I get a lot of the same cards in each pack. If I space the pulls out, I get a more varied card selection. Also does the math(s) take into account timed release (Topps have employed this on numerous occasions it would seem). |
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Post by schmidty20 on Sept 24, 2014 17:57:23 GMT -5
Not really. I'd rather spend my 500K on a guranteed sig than have only a 34% chance of pulling one in 500K in sig packs. Of course, in sig packs, you would get other cards as well, but if you have 500K coins, you most likely do not need too many cards. Regardless of whether it's better "value" to pull normal packs or 1 guarenteed pack, it's utter madness to spend this much on one Digital Card. To put it in resell terms - These will go for around $10 on Ebay. 700 count at 1:120 odds. Madness. Utter bloody madness. True. If I had already spent $75 on 500K coins (which I would never do BTW), and I sure as hell wanted this sig, I would buy the guranteed pack. |
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Post by schmidty20 on Sept 24, 2014 17:58:35 GMT -5
Math is off - even if the opening of a pack is a dependent event (e.g., contents of the pack are based on previous pack openings), you would need 1,200,000 coins to pull one (120 * 10,000 = 1,200,000) which exceeds the cost of buying one 500,000 coin pack. The real odds are: 120 packs opened = 1 - (119/120)^120 = 63.3% chance of pulling the sig 50 packs opened = 1 - (119/120)^50 = 34.2% chance of pulling the sig Can you explain how this is the case? I've often wondered how Topps systems allocate what's in each pack and have often found that if I buy back to back to back packs that I get a lot of the same cards in each pack. If I space the pulls out, I get a more varied card selection. Also does the math(s) take into account timed release (Topps have employed this on numerous occasions it would seem). The math is based on the fact that when you open a pack, you have a 1 in x chance of getting a certain card. If this is not the case, then the math is wrong. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 18:04:56 GMT -5
Regardless of whether it's better "value" to pull normal packs or 1 guarenteed pack, it's utter madness to spend this much on one Digital Card. To put it in resell terms - These will go for around $10 on Ebay. 700 count at 1:120 odds. Madness. Utter bloody madness. True. If I had already spent $75 on 500K coins (which I would never do BTW), and I sure as hell wanted this sig, I would buy the guranteed pack. Oh, agreed. I thought you were suggesting you were going to.... |
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